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6 days 22 hours ago #4566 by Madiman
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Hi Mate - Im about to do the same brew, and have the same questions. Difficult to change bitterness now I believe, so Im asking Gash which hops add the bitterness. Tim

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6 days 21 hours ago #4567 by Serindipaty
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Hi Tim

The higher alpha acids lead to bitterness during the boil. I found www.hopslist.com/ a handy resource for looking at hops stats. However I don't believe much bitterness is added during dry hopping.
Unless you get chunks of hop debris in there.

My hops actually had their alpha acids content listed on their label but if not then that website is a good guide.

My batch is likely to be a bit butter but I guess I'll just suck it and see. From what I've read if it's too bitter (undrinkable) it can be blended with another batch, aged longer or possible to add lactose to curb the bitterness.

At the end of the day it'll still be beer and just learn for the next batch. I'm also only one batch in. So I could be wrong in which case Gash can correct me.

Cheers

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6 days 21 hours ago #4568 by Gash
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JayG depends, you could do the steep at a lower temp, as in add more cold water after the boil before adding the hops. Another thing with the bitterness is sometimes, if you have really fresh hops you can get a bit of hop burn at the start and it may settle down in few days or a week, also can get a little bit of hop matter that settles to the bottom of the keg, eventually that will be gone too.

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6 days 21 hours ago #4570 by Gash
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Madiman There are no bittering hops in this recipe :) I know that sounds weird, you do get some bitterness from the steep after the boil, but if you want to make really sure of that, drop the boiled wort, by chiller or adding cold water down below 80c. Add the hops and give a good stir and do the steep there.
Hops need to be boiled or at least steeped over 80c to give true beer bitterness.
BUT lol big BUT
if as I described to JayG you get hop matter, it can be very fine, like pollen, settle out in the keg then that can tastes very bitter, theres npthing you can do about that except maybe cold crash well and be careful on transfer not to pick up too much junk.

There will always be the bitterness of the tin, thats why I started with a very low bitter tin. Cheers!

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6 days 20 hours ago #4571 by Madiman
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Cheers Mate - Great Site - hoplist, now i'm learning something.
Thanks a lot. Tim

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6 days 20 hours ago #4572 by Madiman
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Thanks Gash, Great site, great ideas, great Help. 10 out of 10 Gash.
Appreciate your fast replies and help on my questioning. Now I understand what's to be done. Brewing next week, I'll let you know how it turns out.
Cheers.
Tim

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6 days 26 minutes ago #4573 by Madiman
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Hi Gash - Re this NEIPA, would you use a Yeast nutrient with the Safale us05. also should I use a flock tablet at the boil.

Tim

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5 days 23 hours ago #4574 by Gash
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Yeast nutrient wont hurt at all, use it if you got it. Whirlfloc probably isnt needed here if it was in a proper boil kettle and you could drain it and leave some behind I'd use it for sure, but all this is going into the fermenter and we arent after a clear beer, so I would worry too much about it mate
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5 days 11 hours ago #4575 by Serindipaty
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Well, first brew done and dusted.
Thanks for the help Finroo and Gash
Finished product:

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Turned out a cloudier than intended, however this was due to be expected with my fumbling. I think a fair portion of my trub is actually in my bottles. However it's all good and tastes quite nice and is better than a 3.5% lager that I had in the kit. I wouldn't say I rival the store bought NEIPAs. It's given me the inspiration to try some more methods and research more. Ended up with just shy of 22 longnecks.

Definitely more citrus on the nose than on the palate, decent mouthfeel. Not that hoppy, I didn't manage to follow as desired, but still ended up with a drinkable beer. Definitely keen to get on the learning curve, bring in some water chemistry etc to try and get the hops to shine a bit more and just hone the basics before I start focussing on the science too much.

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5 days 2 hours ago - 5 days 2 hours ago #4576 by Gash
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Wow its very dark! Could be a combination of the old tin, but since there isnt much hop there its very possible its been oxidised.
Hard to do an neipa in glass bottles.
Its supposed to be cloudy, Im not sure if you think its too cloudy?
Good learning experience!
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Hope everyone is keeping well and managing to brew something. Cheers

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Brewing a Pale today. Cheers lol

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