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LITTLE CREATURES PALE ALE CLONE #1 - ALL GRAIN

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10 years 9 months ago #807 by Gash
After looking at many different clone recipes for LCPA and after speaking with one of their brewers at the GABS beer festival, here is my first attempt.. I'll just be using pellet hops and not fresh cones as they do! I'll probably add some dry hopping too. I'll brew this on Saturday.. Some changes may be made before then!

Recipe: Little Creatures Clone #1
Brewer: GASH
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Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
Boil Size: 28.39 l
Post Boil Volume: 25.83 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 22.00 l
Bottling Volume: 20.49 l
Estimated OG: 1.052 SG
Estimated Color: 12.2 EBC
Estimated IBU: 32.6 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 81.3 %
Boil Time: 75 Minutes

Ingredients:
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
4000.00 g Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) ( Grain 1 79.2 %
500.00 g Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) (3.5 Grain 2 9.9 %
300.00 g Munich, Dark (Joe White) (29.6 EBC) Grain 3 5.9 %
250.00 g Caramalt (Joe White) (49.3 EBC) Grain 4 5.0 %
40.00 g Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 75.0 Hop 5 22.1 IBUs
40.00 g Cascade [6.80 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 6 10.4 IBUs
40.00 g Cascade [6.80 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 7 0.0 IBUs
20.00 g Galaxy [14.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 9 -


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Full Body
Total Grain Weight: 5050.00 g
Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 14.12 l of water at 76.4 C 68.9 C 45 min
Mash Out Add 5.27 l of water at 95.8 C 75.6 C 10 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 15.01 l water at 75.6 C

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10 years 8 months ago #846 by Gash
Just kegged this one, its still very new, tastes a little too bitter but the aroma is nearly there, some adjustments should make this very nice. Probably drop the first addition back a bit and use some of the last addition as a dry hop. :)

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9 years 8 months ago #1410 by Jed1975
Within the next week I'll be brewing this clone recipe (below) I found for Little Creatures. Once brewed and tasted I will let you know how it was. Also I spent some time at Little Creatures a few weeks back. Just letting you all know that the yeast used in their bottle conditioning is a different yeast than they ferment with. They seemed paranoid about people stealing their yeast... so don't think that harvesting yeast from bottles is going to be the same.


23 Litre Batch

Est Alc 5.2% Est IBU’s 35 Est SG:1.048 Est FG:1.010
For The Mash:

3 kg Aus Ale grain
750g Munich grain
750g Wheat grain
250g CaraPils grain

To Infuse grain use 10 litres of 70°C water (strike temp). Mash Schedule: 60min @ 65° C, 20min @ 72°C. Then recirculate and run-off
For The Boil:

20g EK Goldings hop pellets (5.5%AA) – For Bittering
(Boil for 60min)
30g Cascade hop pellets (6.8 % AA) – For Flavour
(Boil for 15min)
1 tsp Irish moss or Whirl Floc – (boil for 15min)
30g Chinnook hop pellets (11.4 % AA) – For Flavour/Aroma
(Boil for 5min)
30g Cascade hop pellets (6.8 % AA) – For Flavour/Aroma
(Boil for 5min)

Fermentation:

Cool the wort and ferment as close as possible to 21°C Preferably with White Labs WLP001 – California Ale Yeast

After 4 days fermentation Dry Hop with 30g Cascade

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9 years 8 months ago #1411 by Gash
Looks nice, I have since this talked to them a couple of times and the hops change all the time. About 6 months ago it was EK Golding, Vic secret and Chinook, I was at a small showcase of their beers and the brewer showed me the recipe sheet on his phone, I was a little merry at the time and just made sure I remembered the hops. But I must say I liked how it used to taste and not so much how it does now. About 6 or 7 years ago they told me they used US05 (wlp001 much the same) or a very similar strain which would make sense given what they were trying to create when they started. I'm not sure they bottle condition though? Last time I had a bottle there was no sediment at all.

Your recipe looks great , let me know how it goes, I have done a few different versions most have been very nice!

Cheers!

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9 years 8 months ago #1412 by Gash
And I know at least in the past they used whole cascade hop. I had a big discussion with another guy online from LC too. I know I kept the convo, I'll try and find it.

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9 years 8 months ago #1413 by Gash
I wonder how they do it to leave bugger all sediment. Unless the bottles I had were very mixed/shaken up

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9 years 4 months ago #1566 by cryan1975
Replied by cryan1975 on topic LITTLE CREATURES PALE ALE CLONE #1 - ALL GRAIN
how are you guys going with the lcpa clone i would love to make this beer. :cheer:

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9 years 4 months ago #1567 by Jed1975
I finally got around to brewing this. It has only been in the bottle for a week. Will post my thoughts in a couple of weeks. If I think it works out well, I'll contact you via facebook Gash and maybe post you some.

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9 years 4 months ago #1568 by cryan1975
Replied by cryan1975 on topic LITTLE CREATURES PALE ALE CLONE #1 - ALL GRAIN
this is what i'm going to run with what you think

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 45.00 l
Boil Size: 54.88 l
Boil Time: 90 min
End of Boil Vol: 48.88 l
Final Bottling Vol: 44.00 l
Fermentation: My Aging Profile
Date: 16 Nov 2014
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Equipment: Braumeister 50L
Efficiency: 75.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 78.3 %
Taste Rating: 30.0

Taste Notes:

Ingredients Amt Name Type # %/IBU
7.75 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 81.1 %
0.70 kg Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) (1.8 SRM) Grain 2 7.3 %
0.60 kg Carapils (Hoepfner) (2.0 SRM) Grain 3 6.3 %
0.50 kg Munich, Dark (Joe White) (15.0 SRM) Grain 4 5.2 %
80.00 g East Kent Goldings (EKG) [4.80 %] - Boil 70.0 min Hop 5 22.7 IBUs
40.00 g Cascade [6.20 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 6 5.2 IBUs
15.00 g Chinook [12.70 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 7 4.0 IBUs
10.00 g Cascade [5.70 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
10.00 g Ella (aka Stella) [14.80 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 9 0.0 IBUs
5.00 g Riwaka [5.60 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 10 0.0 IBUs

0 min add in a bag to fermenter

Gravity, Alcohol Content and Color
Est Original Gravity: 1.050 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.8 %
Bitterness: 31.9 IBUs
Est Color: 5.0 SRM Measured Original Gravity: 1.050 SG
Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.2 %

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9 years 4 months ago #1569 by Gash
I think that will make a nice beer lynchmanp, I haven't really tried to brew LCPA again but lots of beers similar. I think you'll want a nice big dry hop of Cascade or similar. I've never used Ella or Riwaka but ELla sounds great for this kind of beer! Looking forward to hear how these beers go! Cheers!

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